konun4571 8 months{"ops":[{"insert":"So far ive made and build a few EDH decks and all of them are super weak at my lgs ive been having better games with precons mainly the Nids one and the Most wanted one . Both useing the Secondry Commanders . out of the two i prefer most wanted purely on an interaction frount. thinking of trying out one of the two below as my next attempt .\n\nhttps://archidekt.com/decks/7900864/kangee_sky_warden\nor\nhttps://archidekt.com/decks/7868733/ziatora_mk2\n\nas a third option maybe some sort of Izzet artifact token deck as i used to enjoy them back when i played 60 card years ago.\n\nSo Far i have made.\nEriette the beguiler/Xur the enchanter ( final version worked better with xur at the helm but turns out im not a fan of voltron / having all my eggs in one basket. )\nGreasefang veichle Recursion (love playing this deck but it just burns out and basicly forces me to pick one oppoent to bully)\nMiriam herd whisperer ( same as greasefang just cant deal with multiple opponents)\nGonti canny aquisitor ( everybody hates theft decks actually been requested not to play this a couple of times , that said there is a few at the lgs so i kinda get it)\nKutzil ( completly unfocused mess of legendry cats but i may change it to rabbits in bloomsburrow.)\nBaeloth Barrityl, Entertainer / Noble Herritage ( works great probably my strongest deck by far mostly due to the chaos it causes. but its not the sort of deck you can just play repeatedly)\nHazeron ( this one works too but cant put out big enough creatures to compete does consistantly create sand warriors though . https://archidekt.com/decks/7681271/hazezon_mk2 )\n\nany help would be greatly appreciated .\n"}]}
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HungryPorpoise 7 months{"ops":[{"insert":"Your decks look unfocused. \n\nFor Kangee, The enchantment synergy should probably be removed and replaced with flying beaters. (combat research, dawn of hope, greater auramancy, curator's ward, maybe steel of the godhead (flying is normally enough evasion for me at least in most scenarios)). It also looks you have a ton of mana rocks for a deck with a pretty low mana curve.\n\nFor Ziatora, the deck just does too much. it pumps, has etb, it has ghalta for some reason? Remove ghalta, security rhox, kresh, railway brawler, mr orfeo, unnatural growth, calamity, and molten duplication. Now you also do not have enough creatures to sac. Put in those one costs that give treasures when they die, put in creatures that draw cards when they etb/die, put in solemn simulacrum, put in creatures YOU CAN SAC!\n\nOverall, your decks have a bit too much \"win more cards\" that help you, but only if you already are doing well (think unnatural growth, dawn of hope, they work when you are already doing your gameplan), and put in cards that help you activate your gameplan, consistently.\n"}]}
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konun4571 7 months{"ops":[{"insert":"hey thanks for the input \n\nGhalta was in there purely as cheap sac fodder as i probably cast for Cheapish like 6 mana if i have my commander sac at end of turn potentually pumped up by the Brawler / Mr Or-feo or unatural growth for 24 or more damage . then use recursion to loop the same reason yargle is in there. figured it wasnt worth focusing on stuff to sac for chip damage. \n\nWas aiming for some consistancy in having somthing to make the sac stronger rather than just making more mana i dont have a use for? \n\nHonestly thinking i may retool it to use Ognis as the commander and just use the loops to relentlessy hurl hasty things at people and go for some sort of Attrition thing. not sure though as im just second guessing every deck making decision ive made as the last 7 decks ive made have turned out awful.\n\nas for Kangee yeah its probably bad i think ill just scrap that one\n"}]}
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darkconfidnt 7 months{"ops":[{"insert":"Ziatora feels like you're caught between aristocrats and power buffs, and you probably want to pick a clear direction and go all-in. imo, Ziatora always wants "},{"attributes":{"italic":true},"insert":"something"},{"insert":" to sacrifice for the treasure output, so token-makers or creatures that self-reanimate like "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Bloodghast"}},{"insert":" work great.\n\nOther considerations:\nRe: treasures / artifacts ETBing - "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Mayhem Devil"}},{"insert":" , "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Sarinth Steelseeker"}},{"insert":" , "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Reckless Fireweaver"}},{"insert":" \n"},{"attributes":{"background":"var(--light-background)","color":"var(--color)"},"insert":"You could embrace your inner villain and add "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Threaten"}},{"attributes":{"background":"var(--light-background)","color":"var(--color)"},"insert":" effects for a steal-and-sac build. I do like the copy effects you have (could even consider more). "},{"insert":"\nI like the new "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Laughing Jasper Flint"}},{"insert":" and "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Rakdos, the Muscle"}},{"insert":" as synergistic card-advantage machines. \n"},{"insert":{"card-link":"Rhythm of the Wild"}},{"insert":" is always strong\nRe: recursion - "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Oversold Cemetery"}},{"insert":" (with just 22 creatures, idk how often this'll trigger), "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Riveteers Ascendancy"}},{"insert":" , and "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Rogues' Gallery"}},{"insert":", I'm not sure how reliably these will trigger, as opposed to your safer one-shot reanimates like "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Honest Rutstein"}},{"insert":" (which is itself a creature and hence sacrifice-able!)\n\nGeneric cuts that don't seem to pull their weight: "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Exsanguinate"}},{"insert":", "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Security Rhox"}},{"insert":" , "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Body Dropper"}},{"insert":", "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Witty Roastmaster"}},{"insert":" \n\nNote: "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Deathreap Ritual"}},{"insert":" , while good, won't trigger on your end step if all you've done is sacrifice a creature to Ziatora, due to the intervening if (it's still worth playing)\n"}]}
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konun4571 7 months{"ops":[{"insert":"ooh rakdos could work really well i missed him complely , originally i was looking more towards the the Power buffs side to potentually Fling Huge Creatures or somthing like that . ended up adding a bunch of lower mana value stuff with death/entry effects mostly for curve if nothing else . thanks for the input. I am very unfamiliar with Sac/recursion decks especialy in Jund the closest thing ive made is a greesefang deck which i enjoy the playstyle of but it falls flat thought ziatora would give me a similar sort of thing but with better scaleing.\n"}]}
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darkconfidnt 7 months{"ops":[{"insert":"Kangee feels like she wants to go-wide with fliers. Hence, I'd lean towards token-makers like "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Talrand, Sky Summoner"}},{"insert":", "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Murmuring Mystic"}},{"insert":", "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Andúril, Flame of the West"}},{"insert":", "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Battle Screech"}},{"insert":", "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Combat Calligrapher"}},{"insert":" , "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Court of Grace"}},{"insert":" , "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Haunted Library"}},{"insert":" , "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Staff of the Storyteller"}},{"insert":" etc. Plenty of Thopter makers too \nI think you can shave a few anthems - "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Favorable Winds"}},{"insert":" and "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Radiant Destiny"}},{"insert":" stick out, perhaps even "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Spear of Heliod"}},{"insert":". \nOther cuts: "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Greater Auramancy"}},{"insert":" (not enough enchantments), "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Turn Aside"}},{"insert":" (too narrow; and you already have "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Hindering Light"}},{"insert":"), "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Dawn of Hope"}},{"insert":" (not enough lifegain imo), "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Brainstorm"}},{"insert":" (only really good w/ shuffle effects or draw payoffs), "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Curator's Ward"}},{"insert":" (feels underwhelming).\n\nSince you're fliers can likely get in for combat damage, I like the "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Bident of Thassa"}},{"insert":" - you could consider its ilk ("},{"insert":{"card-link":"Reconnaissance Mission"}},{"insert":" , "},{"insert":{"card-link":"The Indomitable"}},{"insert":" , "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Coastal Piracy"}},{"insert":" )\n"},{"insert":{"card-link":"Gravitational Shift"}},{"insert":" or "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Inniaz, the Gale Force"}},{"insert":" or "},{"insert":{"card-link":"Sephara, Sky's Blade"}},{"insert":" could be fun here.\n"}]}
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